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	<title>Comments on: Rights to First Contact or When Does &#8220;Social&#8221; Become Spam?</title>
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		<title>By: A Twitter of Fortunate Events &#171; A Bite of Sanity</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Twitter of Fortunate Events &#171; A Bite of Sanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 04:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] space of people that don&#8217;t follow you back, and sadly the spammers are still causing their fair share of genuine concerns, but there are literally thousands of connections out there to be made &#8212; the network is built [...]</description>
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<p>[...] space of people that don&#8217;t follow you back, and sadly the spammers are still causing their fair share of genuine concerns, but there are literally thousands of connections out there to be made &#8212; the network is built [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lorna Li</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorna Li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the method of first contact is really important - I mean, if I don&#039;t know you, is there any reason why I should or would want to know you - a 2 sentence personalized message will suffice.  

On one hand, I get the marketing spam perspective of accumulating a massive audience for your said product.  In some cases, the miniscule conversion rate makes the time spent worthwhile.

What I find baffling is the sad, neurotic, socially dysfuntional addiction that the nonmarketing perpetrators have towards acquiring as many virtual friends possible. Just because you have a gazillion MySpace friends doesn&#039;t actually mean you are not a loser or your death metal band rocks.

For example, I keep picking up Twitter followers and I really don&#039;t Twitter all that much, nor am I a notable tech authority.  Why are you following me?  I get the chills.

I believe that stalker underside of social networks is a mere reflection of existing social angst of lonely souls seeking a doorway out of their social isolation. Social networks can be great enhancements to one&#039;s social life and staying in touch with people you already know, or meeting new people with strong shared interests - but it shouldn&#039;t be a replacement for getting out the door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the method of first contact is really important &#8211; I mean, if I don&#8217;t know you, is there any reason why I should or would want to know you &#8211; a 2 sentence personalized message will suffice.  </p>
<p>On one hand, I get the marketing spam perspective of accumulating a massive audience for your said product.  In some cases, the miniscule conversion rate makes the time spent worthwhile.</p>
<p>What I find baffling is the sad, neurotic, socially dysfuntional addiction that the nonmarketing perpetrators have towards acquiring as many virtual friends possible. Just because you have a gazillion MySpace friends doesn&#8217;t actually mean you are not a loser or your death metal band rocks.</p>
<p>For example, I keep picking up Twitter followers and I really don&#8217;t Twitter all that much, nor am I a notable tech authority.  Why are you following me?  I get the chills.</p>
<p>I believe that stalker underside of social networks is a mere reflection of existing social angst of lonely souls seeking a doorway out of their social isolation. Social networks can be great enhancements to one&#8217;s social life and staying in touch with people you already know, or meeting new people with strong shared interests &#8211; but it shouldn&#8217;t be a replacement for getting out the door.</p>
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		<title>By: jgoode</title>
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		<dc:creator>jgoode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fantastic! I agree, the opt-in has served us &quot;well&quot; for quite some time, however for social networking I believe it is the community of users in conjunction with the industry developers that will have to solve this growing issue -- if there is a door to open, spammers/un-invited sales pitches will forever be present. Heck, I&#039;m on every do not solicite list I can find yet I still get junk snail mail... the uninvited advertising will always ooze in somewhere.

I think if we take a deeper look at public communications such as blogs and forums and their tools that are used to help &quot;moderate&quot; interaction,  we can adapt similar concepts that are quite effective for social networking. 

There are pros and cons to the whole &quot;open communication networking&quot; concept -- as Bryce said, many people we&#039;d not otherwise run across are now mere clicks away -- so if we can focus on finding effective ways to filter the spammers, I think the value of the networking far outweighs the annoyances of the virtual &quot;door-to-door magazine sales folk&quot;.

If only flagging systems were cheat proof we could red flag them all away in one big joint effort. - idea. have a flag system on the flaggers? ;)

Thanks again for the great thought provoking.. um, thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fantastic! I agree, the opt-in has served us &#8220;well&#8221; for quite some time, however for social networking I believe it is the community of users in conjunction with the industry developers that will have to solve this growing issue &#8212; if there is a door to open, spammers/un-invited sales pitches will forever be present. Heck, I&#8217;m on every do not solicite list I can find yet I still get junk snail mail&#8230; the uninvited advertising will always ooze in somewhere.</p>
<p>I think if we take a deeper look at public communications such as blogs and forums and their tools that are used to help &#8220;moderate&#8221; interaction,  we can adapt similar concepts that are quite effective for social networking. </p>
<p>There are pros and cons to the whole &#8220;open communication networking&#8221; concept &#8212; as Bryce said, many people we&#8217;d not otherwise run across are now mere clicks away &#8212; so if we can focus on finding effective ways to filter the spammers, I think the value of the networking far outweighs the annoyances of the virtual &#8220;door-to-door magazine sales folk&#8221;.</p>
<p>If only flagging systems were cheat proof we could red flag them all away in one big joint effort. &#8211; idea. have a flag system on the flaggers? <img src='http://eponymousx.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks again for the great thought provoking.. um, thoughts.</p>
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